tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30754098.post4160663114744724829..comments2023-07-04T09:11:30.025-04:00Comments on 78 Notes to Self: A Tarot Journal: The Advice PositionGinny Claytonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03759784851970527096noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30754098.post-37726801812621987582009-10-29T19:26:30.917-04:002009-10-29T19:26:30.917-04:00Heh, Chris, looks like you liked my post on The Em...Heh, Chris, looks like you liked my post on The Emperor, huh? LOL That card conflicts me so it wasn't easy to write on it. Glad you found 78 Notes to Self and I hope you stick around.Ginny Claytonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03759784851970527096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30754098.post-62508721749020102732009-10-29T18:50:53.550-04:002009-10-29T18:50:53.550-04:00The Emperor's word is law and he has the power...The Emperor's word is law and he has the power to enforce it by physical, violent means, if necessary. His number in tarot is IV, which is the most stable of numbers. He is the fully masculine counterpart to The Empress, who is feminine energy personified.. !!! Thanks Nice Post <br />Goood BlogChris Antonhttp://www.ikinciel.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30754098.post-46444536427677905572009-09-29T18:08:34.736-04:002009-09-29T18:08:34.736-04:00I'm going to assume we are talking about advic...I'm going to assume we are talking about advice that is asked for, because honestly, unsolicited advice is so rarely welcome unless it is of that literal variety such as "Watch out for that falling piano!" So if someone comes to you, unhappy with their weight, for example, you have two options. You can say to them, "Hey, you're fat. Stop eating so much! Go to the gym! Did you ever think of walking?" OR you can ask, "What have you tried so far? Has anything worked for you in the past? Have you had a physical? What does your doctor say? What do you think prevents you from meeting your goals?" And so on...it's MUCH better to lead a person to their own answers than to just hand them yours. <br /><br />With tarot cards, if we see a card suggesting a particular outcome, it's definitely our place to say what we believe the card means in that situation. But that's different than the Advice position, isn't it? When I went to a reader for predictions, I usually felt a little irked when instead I got advice. (That's why question framing is essential -- find out what your querant REALLY wants to know) <br /><br />To use your rock adage, I think it's perfectly fine, if you are asked your opinion, to say I see a big rock right there. They can choose then to keep right on going or not, but that's always up to them. <br /><br />I think the main thing I would keep in mind is that we are all deserving of respect, even if we're behaving foolishly, and how you communicate your advice is essential to it being considered. Communicating it with respect for their own autonomy and presumed intelligence places your advice in a light beneath which it will, at least, be considered. Even if it is tossed aside, it will at minimum be heard.Ginny Claytonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03759784851970527096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30754098.post-43713249220506359062009-09-28T18:23:29.119-04:002009-09-28T18:23:29.119-04:00Hi Andre, you know, I've occasionally felt tha...Hi Andre, you know, I've occasionally felt that urge, but honestly, who am I to decide this or that person "needs to be shaken?" And what am I trying to accomplish by said shaking? If I am actually trying to help and to communicate something to them, I definitely do not want to erect walls of defense and offense with them. That will completely defeat my intention. When a person feels attacked, it doesn't even matter how good the advice was, they will remember not the advice but the person who attacked them. There is nothing wrong with stating one's opinion, especially when asked to, but ask yourself what your own intentions are first. If they are just to "shake up" a person, then don't be surprised if they turn and shake their fist at you and ignore your advice.<br /><br />I have a spread that specifically has positions for what someone wants to do and what they likely will do and by and large the cards that show up in those two positions are usually quite opposite. So you're right, what people want and what they do are often at odds. But it's not my job to fix that. I can point it out but unless that person is willing to act on the desire, there's really nothing I can do. <br /><br />Which isn't to say I don't tell the truth. I think telling the truth is important. However, my "truth" can differ widely from others "truths" so really, opinion is all we got. Humility goes a long, long way when sharing those opinions we have and claim to be "truth."<br /><br />And Jennifer, LOL, I was waiting for someone to say that. :DGinny Claytonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03759784851970527096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30754098.post-47559064289553134392009-09-28T17:18:04.805-04:002009-09-28T17:18:04.805-04:00Good advice!Good advice!~Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15319711918555896841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30754098.post-18885204436981755812009-09-27T15:05:27.958-04:002009-09-27T15:05:27.958-04:00yes, you are so right! People tend to think we tar...yes, you are so right! People tend to think we tarot readers manipulate people to do as we say, and I guess it can be done with some people, but it's not that easy to do-if they are not ready to take that advice, they usually won't.<br />Some people come to you indeed wanting to hear something and ask the same question over and over again-I usually don't allow that. If you want to do something, go ahead and do it- you don't need the cards' approval for that. But most people are cool with what the cards have to say and take or leave the advice at their choice. I must say I am lucky-I get around fifty readings a month and most of my clients are sensible, down to earth people. :))) As you said in Twitter, they can teach one a lot, too :)Rozondahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13382323692461060964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30754098.post-82348401448299643472009-09-27T12:21:32.371-04:002009-09-27T12:21:32.371-04:00Hi Rozonda! It's pretty much a given that the ...Hi Rozonda! It's pretty much a given that the reason someone is consulting tarot in the first place is because they're having difficulty deciding. I mean, if they already knew what course of action to take, they would have already taken it. Maybe we consult the cards afterwards to see if it was the right way to go, but usually we explore a reading beforehand so we can see the potential possibilities. Sometimes people want to take the onus off themselves and place it on the cards or the reader, but, like you, I don't find that empowering or helpful because being led blindly into anything is not the best way to walk through one's life. Besides, if the cards suggest a course of action the seeker's emotions don't align with, they are not likely to take the advice anyway.Ginny Claytonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03759784851970527096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30754098.post-34342754118573898032009-09-27T04:56:29.433-04:002009-09-27T04:56:29.433-04:00Brilliant post, Ginny. I'm very ssensitive to ...Brilliant post, Ginny. I'm very ssensitive to this problem both as a professional tarot reader and a person who has problems dealing with unsolicited advice :)<br /><br />Because i know how hurtful that kind of advice can be,I always try to stress in my readings that the advice of cards is not law, that can be taken or left, that "if you do this and this, this could happen, so maybe it would be bettter to...but only if you are ready/need to/decide"<br />People usually love this way of saying things, and what's better it makes them THINK instead of following blindly the cards' advice.Rozondahttp://secretosdeltarot.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.com